Babri Masjid demolition: consequences and impact

indraD · **Posted:** Wed Jul 01, 2009 5:29 am

17 years, 48 extensions later Liberhan Commission submits Babri report to PM

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According to Times Now, the report could reveal role of BJP's L K Advani and Bajrang Dal in Babri incidents. Report could also shed light on number of other top BJP leaders.
Justice M S Liberhan told Times Now that certain witnesses weren't non-cooperative during the probe. "The report got delayed due to uncooperative attitude of witnesses," he added.
The probe panel was one of the costliest commissions having spent nearly Rs eight crore. The bulk of the amount was spent on the salaries and perks of the supporting staff

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Babr ... 719166.cms

Uma Bharti: No regrets on demolition, ready to be hanged
http://www.hindustantimes.com/StoryPage ... ma+Bharati

The Liberhan Commission report is God sent for the BJP in disarray.

If they are blamed, it will give grounds for Hindu sympathy as they will be perceived as martyrs for the Hindu cause to right a historical wrong!

If they are not held responsible, then the BJP will be off the hook!

Some Muslim commentators feel that the ruling party will sit on the Report since it is not election time and release it later when it suits their (Congress')convenience!

indraD · **Posted:** Wed Jul 01, 2009 5:32 am

Very interesting find:

THE MOSQUE

1. "Surely the first house appointed for men is the one at Bakkah blessed and a guidance for nations" (3:95).

2. "And from whatsoever place thou comest forth, turn thy face towards the Sacred Mosque; and wherever you are, turn your faces towards it" (2:150).

3. "And had there not been Allāh's repelling some people by others, certainly there would have been pulled down cloisters and churches and synagogues and mosques in which Allāh's name is much remembered" (22:40).

4. "And who is more unjust than he who prevents men from the mosques of Allāh that His name should be remembered therein and strives to ruin them" (2:114),

5. "The mosques are Allāh's" (72:18).

6. "The idolaters have no right to visit the mosques of Allāh" (9:17).

The whole earth being a mosque (h. 1), prayers may be offered anywhere, singly or in congregation, and accordingly no consecration of the mosque is necessary. Prayers may be said even in a non-Muslim house of worship, provided it contains no statues or pictures

http://www.sacred-texts.com/isl/hadith/had08.htm

Hmmmm........The whole earth is a mosque. In a mosque, idolators are not permitted nor there should be statues or pictures.

The Babri Mazjid had idols and idolators were praying out there.

Therefore, is it a mosque?

Has it been proved that there was a temple out there?

The findings of this Commission would be interesting.

sonu · **Joined:** Mon Apr 13, 2009 3:35 pm **Posts:** 193

Government haven't made the report public so we really dont know what is written in the report.

sonu · **Joined:** Mon Apr 13, 2009 3:35 pm **Posts:** 193

indraD wrote:

The Babri Mazjid had idols and idolators were praying out there.

Therefore, is it a mosque?

Has it been proved that there was a temple out there?

The findings of this Commission would be interesting.

In every religion the way of praying is different and there is nothing wrong in it .Even within hindu reiligion we have many ways of praying.
As far as Mosque is concern Muslim never offered namaz there at the disputed site for the past 110 or 120 years . As far as existence of temple is concern its just a matter of belief or a text available about the Ramji's birthplace .

Anuradha · **Joined:** Sat Oct 18, 2008 3:53 am **Posts:** 1780

I would say, better build a school for poor children education there.. God (Ram or Allah) will be more happy with it...

indraD · **Posted:** Thu Jul 02, 2009 6:38 am

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Abstract: Since 1855, the Babri Mosque in Ayodhya has been the source of sporadic clashes between Hindus and Muslims. After a thorough scrutiny of the available historical literature on the Mosque, this article argues that to regard it as the birthplace of the Hindu deity Rama is untenable and the notion was actually put into circulation by British colonial officials to serve British interests in the Indian subcontinent. Successive colonial administrations tried to strengthen their grip on South Asia by playing off one group against another in the name of caste, race, and, most importantly, religion. The ongoing Hindu-Muslim conflict in India is largely the outcome of British policies. With their agenda of 'divide and rule' that aimed at consolidating their hold over the subcontinent the British tried to create a huge chasm between Hindus and Muslims. They labelled Muslims as the oppressors and Hindus as the oppressed, working to gain the support of the Hindu masses by provoking their hatred of the Muslims; and they strongly backed their religious and other claims in a vast amount of biased literature. It was with this colonial agenda that they endorsed the Hindu claim to the site of the Babri Mosque.

From the book : Babri Masjid a bone of contention

ASI (Arch survery) did a massive study and came out with the result that Babri masjid was an illegal structure on a controversial piece of land, but in a country where every decision is seen through lens of votes, this went unnoticed.
Neverthless demolition had a wide and far impact changing face of India politics forever. I think it should be investigated now why Liberhan took 17 years and wasted Rs 10 crore of tax payer's money. This will take another 17 years and in the mean while a big hospital should be constructed 1 km away from the site treating people of all religion.

sonu · **Joined:** Mon Apr 13, 2009 3:35 pm **Posts:** 193

indraD wrote:

I think it should be investigated now why Liberhan took 17 years and wasted Rs 10 crore of tax payer's money. This will take another 17 years and in the mean while a big hospital should be constructed 1 km away from the site treating people of all religion.

very funny ID

this line of your remind me of sunny deol's dialogue . Investigation pe investigation ..investigation pe investigation ...

indraD · **Posted:** Fri Jul 03, 2009 6:37 pm

Why not take the Hon. Justice SebenteenSaal at face value and assume that the Report came out this early, even though 17<< 53, due to his amazing dedication and sheer speed of action. I mean, he had to take testimony from A HUNDRED WITNESSES... ALMOST ONE EVERY TWO MONTHS!

The preview already says:
Advani, U.Bharati, A.Singhal, Kalyan Singh etc. indictable for
1. "Failing to control mob that they led any better than the Lok Sabha Speaker controls the Hon. MPs", (Section 666, IPC, punishable by 20 years RI)

2. Making Non-Somnolent Speeches. (Section ZZZZ, IPC, punishable by having to attend 200 AICC General Body Meetings and 20 IIT Convocation Addresses Without the Option of Going "P")

PV Narasimha Rao indicted for "Being Asleep on The Job While the BM was Trashed" ( As Usual) (punishable by 5 years RI, if they can catch him. ).

Kalyan Singh indicted for "dodging the Commission". Punishable if they can catch him.

But my question remains:

1. Which of these is punishable 17 years after the alleged event? Isn't there a Statute of Limitations?

2. Who started the RIOTS elsewhere in India following this event, and what was their excuse?

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